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The Agony of All That Is
The Aeon of Seth
SETH on the Sethites of Old
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SETH on the “Second Coming”
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From The Third Stele of Seth
From the Second Treatise of The Great Seth
From The Gospel of Truth


The Temple of Juno
- Caspar David Friedrich -

The New Sethian Gnosis

The greatest and most articulate challenge to distorted New Age spirituality found expression with the publication in the 1970’s of the SETH books of Jane Roberts – these being transcriptions of communications from a trans-physical entity calling itself SETH. Together they constitute a recognisable re-articulation of ancient gnostic wisdom, but in new terms entirely freed of archaic mythological language and symbolism.


The Agony of All That Is

Now - and this will seem like a contradiction in terms there is nonbeing. It is a state, not of nothingness, but a state in which probabilities and possibilities are known and anticipated but blocked from expression.

Dimly, through what you would call history, hardly remembered, there was such a state. It was a state of agony in which the powers of creativity and existence were known, but the ways to produce them were not.

This is the lesson that All That Is had to learn, and that could not be taught. This is the agony from which creativity originally was drawn, and its reflection is still seen.

…Yet the agony itself was used as a means, and the agony itself served as an impetus, strong enough so that All That Is initiated within Itself the means to be.

…The first agonised search for expression may have represented the birth throes of All That Is. Pretend then, that you possessed within yourself the knowledge of all the worlds masterpieces in sculpture and art, that they pulsed as realities within you, but that you had no physical apparatus, no knowledge of how to achieve them; that there was neither rock nor pigment nor source of any of these, and you ached with the yearning to produce them. This, on an infinitesimally small scale, will perhaps give you…some idea of the agony and the impulse that was felt.

Desire, wish and expectation rule all actions and are the basis for all realities. Within All That Is therefore, the wish, desire and expectation of creativity existed before all other actuality. The strength and vitality of these desires and expectations then became in your terms so insupportable that All That Is was driven to find the means to produce them.

In other words, All That Is existed in a state of being, but without the means to find expression for Its being...The agony and the desire to create represented Its proof of Its own reality. The feelings, in other words, were adequate proof to All That Is that It was.

At first, in your terms, all of probable reality existed as nebulous dreams within the consciousness of All That Is. Later, the unspecific nature of those dreams grew more particular and vivid. The dreams became recognisable, one from the other, until they drew the conscious notice of All That Is. And with curiosity and yearning, All That Is paid more attention to its own dreams.

It then purposely gave them more and more detail, and yearned toward this diversity and grew to love that which was not yet separate from itself. It gave consciousness and imagination to personalities while they were still but within Its dreams. They also yearned to be actual.

Potential individuals, in your terms, had consciousness before the beginning or any beginning as you know it, then. They clamoured to be released into actuality, and All That Is, in unspeakable sympathy, sought within Itself for the means.

In its massive imagination, It understood the cosmic multiplication of consciousness that could not occur within that framework. Actuality was necessary if these probabilities were to be given birth. All That Is saw then, an infinity of probable, conscious individuals, and foresaw all possible developments, but they were locked within It until It found the means.

This was in your terms a primary cosmic dilemma, and one with which It wrestled until All That Is was completely involved and enveloped within that cosmic problem. Had it not solved it, All That Is would have faced insanity, and there would have been, literally, a reality without reason and a world run wild.

The pressure came from two sources: from the conscious but still probable individual selves who found themselves alive in a Gods dream, and from the God who yearned to release them.

On the hand, you could say that the pressure existed simply on the part of God, since the creation existed within Its dream, but such tremendous power resides in such primary pyramid gestalts that even their dreams are endowed with vitality and reality.

This then, is the dilemma of any primary pyramid gestalt: It creates reality. It also recognised within each consciousness the massive potential that existed. The means, then, came to It. It realised It must release the creatures and probabilities from within Its dreams.

To do so would give them actuality. However it also meant losing a portion of Its own consciousness, for it was within that portion that they were held in bondage. All That Is had to let go. While it thought of these individuals as Its creations, It held them as a part of Itself and refused them actuality.

To let them go was to lose that portion of Itself that had created them. Already It could scarcely keep up with the myriad probabilities that began to emerge from each separate consciousness. With love and longing It let go of that portion of Itself, and they were free.

…All That Is therefore, lost a portion of itself in that creative endeavour, All That Is loves all that It has created down to the least, for it realises the dearness and uniqueness of each consciousness which has been wrest from such a state and at such a price. It is triumphant and joyful at each development taken by each consciousness, for this is an added triumph against that first state, and It revels and takes joy in the slightest creative act of each of Its issues.

It, of Itself, and from that state, has given life to infinities of possibilities. From Its agony, It found the way to burst forth in freedom through expression and in doing so gave existence to individualised consciousness. Therefore It is rightfully jubilant. Yet all individuals remember their source, and now dream of All That Is as All That Is once dreamed of them. And they yearn toward that immense source….and yearn to set It free and give It actuality through their own creations.

The motivating force is still All That Is, but individuality is no illusion. Now in the same way do you give freedom to the personality fragments within your own dreams and for the same reason. And you create for the same reason, and within you is the memory of that primal agony that urge to create and free all probable consciousness into actuality.

I have been sent to help you, and others have been sent through the centuries of your time, for as you develop, you also form new dimensions, and you will help others.

These connections between you and All That Is can never be severed, and Its awareness is so delicate and focussed that Its attention is indeed directed with a prime creators love to each consciousness.

All portions of All That Is are constantly changing, enfolding and unfolding. All That Is, seeking to know itself, constantly creates new versions of Itself. For this seeking Itself is a creative activity and the core of all action.

Consciousness, seeking to know itself, therefore knows you. You, as a consciousness, seek to know yourself and become aware of yourself as a distinct individual portion of All That Is.

There is no personal God-individual in Christian terms… and yet you do have access to a portion of All That Is, a portion highly attuned to you….There is a portion of All That Is directed and focussed within each individual, residing within each consciousness. Each consciousness is therefore cherished and individually protected. This portion of overall consciousness is individualised within you.

….This portion is also aware of itself as something more than you. This portion that knows itself as you, and as more than you is the Personal God, you see.

…You are co-creators. What you call God is the sum of all consciousnesses, and yet the whole is more than the sum of its parts. God is more than the sum of all personalities and yet all personalities are what He is.

from The Seth Material by Jane Roberts


The Aeon of Seth

The ‘gods’ were never identified by the gnostics of old with God - the pleroma - but known as aeons. The word aeon referred both to an eternal spirit being and to an distinct sphere or dimension of awareness. Not all aeons were seen as having incarnate forms but some were regarded as sending messengers or emissaries to mankind – Seth being foremost amongst these. The spiritual entitly calling itself ‘Seth’ and channelled by Jane Roberts described himself as part of a larger aeon or ‘pyramid awareness gestalt’. To such trans-physical entities, awareness gestalts or aeons belongs a knowing awareness of potentiality of such potency or power that it is the source of countless consciousnesses and actualities. In the words of the awareness gestalt, entity or aeon which Seth himself described as his spiritual ‘big brother’:


Our entity is composed of multitudinous selves with their own identities…Physically you would find me a mass smaller than a brown nut, for my energy is so highly concentrated. It exists in intensified mass…perhaps like one infinite cell existing in endless dimensions at once and reaching out from its own reality to all others. Later, in your time, all of you will look down into the physical system like giants peering through small windows at the others now in your position and smile. But you will not want to stay, nor crawl through such small enclosures… We protect such systems. Our basic and ancient knowledge automatically reaches out to nourish all systems that grow……there is a reality beyond human reality that cannot be verbalised nor translated in human terms. Although this type of experience may seem cold to you, it is a clear and crystal-like existence in which no time is needed for experience…in which the inner self condenses all human knowledge that has been received through various existences and reincarnations….for all this has been coded and exists indelibly. You also exist now within this reality. Know that within your physical atoms now the origins of all consciousness still sing…We gave you the patterns behind which your physical selves are formed. We gave you the patterns, intricate, involved and blessed, from which you form the reality of each physical thing you know.

from The Seth Material, Jane Roberts



We are the voices who speak without tongues of our own. We are sources of that energy from which you come. We are creators, yet we have also been created. We seeded your universe as you seed other realities.

We do not exist in historical terms, nor have we known physical existence. Our joy created the exultation from which your world comes. Our existence is such that communications must be made by others to you.

Verbal symbols have no meaning for us. Our experience is not translatable. We hope our intent is. In the vast infinite scope of consciousness, all is possible. There is meaning in each thought. We perceive your thoughts as lights. They form patterns.

Because of the difficulties of communication, it is nearly impossible for us to explain our reality. Know only that we exist. We send immeasurable vitality to you, and support all of those structures of consciousness with which you are familiar. You are never alone…We have always send emissaries to you who understand your needs. Though you do not know us, we cherish you.

Seth is a point in my reference, in our reference. He is an ancient portion of us. We are separate but united.

from Seth Speaks


SETH on the Sethites of Old

The well-recognised Sethian stream of ancient gnosticism saw in the biblical Seth, the third son of Adam and Eve, and in his progeny, the bearer for mankind of inner knowing or gnosis. Seth was also recognised, like Christ, as an aeon – a trans-human entity. Seth was also the name of an Egyptian god of desert storms – a god who came eventually to be demonised. The trans-physical entity naming himself Seth whom Jane Roberts channelled, at one point addressed the members of her class in extra-sensory perception and had this to say about the name Seth, the god Seth and what it means to be a ‘Sethite’.


There was once a god who was not a god who was not a god, for you are dealing with legends. There was a god in ancient Egypt, and his name was Seth, and he was disreputable. And he threw aside establishments, and whenever other gods rose up and said We are the truth, we are pure and we are holy, this disreputable god stood up and, with a voice like thunder, said You are nincompoops! .

And the other gods did not like him, and whenever they set up their altars, he came like thunder, but playfully, and tossed the altars asunder, and he said Storms are natural, and good, and a part of the earth, even as placid skies are. Winds are good. Questions are good. Males and females are good. Even gods and demons are good, if you must believe in demons. But, structures are limited.

And so this god, who was not a god, went about kicking apart the structures, and he gathered about him others who kicked apart the structures. And they were themselves, whether they were male or female. Whether they thought of themselves as good or bad, or summer or winter, or as old or as young, they were creators. They were questioners.

And whenever another personality set itself up and said, I am the god before you and my word is law, then Seth went about saying You are a nincompoop and began again to kick apart the structures. And so you are yourselves, in your way, all Seths, for you kick apart the structures, and you are the black sheep of the physicians, and the black sheep of your mothers and fathers, and your sisters and brothers.

And yet, the mother and the fathers and the sisters and the brothers listen, for they do not have the courage to be the black sheep, and they quale in the voice of the thunder that is so playful, though they do not understand it, for they equate loudness with violence, and they think that female is passive and the male is aggressive; and that war and violence must always erupt from the reality of mankind.

And you are indeed all black sheep of the universe, and Sethites have always been the black sheep of the universe.

Now to be a Sethite, you do not have to follow this Seth. You simply follow the Seth in yourself, and that Seth in you is a questioner, and an explorer, and a creator. And the Seth in yourself knows when to passively flow with the wind that blows through the window above a summer town, and when to go against the force of your environment. You were Sethites before you met me, and there was a Seth before I was Seth, and the spirit follows through the ages as you know them.

from Conversations with Seth, by Sue Watkins


SETH on Religion

Ideas of good and evil, gods and devils, salvation or damnation, are merely symbols of deeper religious values; cosmic values if you will, that cannot be translated into physical terms.

These ideas become the driving themes of…religious dramas.

…Psychic or psychological identification is of great import here and is indeed at the heart of all such dramas. In one sense, you can say that man identifies with the gods he has himself created…The attributes of the gods are those inherent within man himself, brought into powerful activity. Men believe that the gods live forever. Men live forever, but having forgotten this they remember only to endow their gods with this characteristic, Obviously then, behind these earthly historic religious dramas, the seemingly recurring tales of gods and men, there are spiritual realities.

Behind the actors in the drama there are more powerful entities who are quite beyond role playing. The plays themselves, then, the religions that sweep across the ages these are merely shadows, though helpful ones.

….The inner self alone, at rest, in meditation, can at times glimpse portions of these inner realities that cannot be physically expressed.

…The exterior religious dramas are of course, imperfect representations of the ever-unfolding interior spiritual realities. The various personages, the gods and prophets within religious history these absorb the mass inner projections thrown out by those inhabiting a given time span.

Such religious dramas focus, direct, and hopefully, clarify aspects of inner reality that need to be physically represented.

…Exterior religious dramas are important and valuable only to the extent that they faithfully reflect the nature of inner, private spiritual experience. To the extent that a man feels that his religion expresses such inner experience, he will feel it valid. Most religions per se, however, set up as permissible certain groups of experiences while denying others. They limit themselves by applying the principles of the sacredness of life only to your own species, and often to highly limited groups within it.

At no time will any given church be able to express the inner experience of all individuals. At no time will any church itself in which it can effectively curtail the inner experience of its members it will only seem to do so. The forbidden experiences will simply be unconsciously expressed, gather strength and vitality, and rise up to form a counter projection which will then form another, newer exterior religious drama.

The dramas themselves do express certain inner realities, and they serve as surface reminders for those who do not trust direct experience with the inner self. They will take the symbols as reality. When they discover that this is not so, they feel betrayed. Christ spoke in terms of the father and the son because in your terms, at that time, this was the method used the story he told to explain the relationship between the inner self and the physically alive individual.

….The Hebrew god, however, represented a projection of a different kind. Man was growing more and more aware of the ego, of a sense of power over nature, and many of the later miracles are presented in such a way that nature is forced to behave differently than its usual mode. God became mans ally against nature.

The early Hebrew god became a symbol of mans unleashed ego. God behaved exactly as an enraged child would, had he those powers, sending thunder and lightning and fire against his enemies, destroying them. Mans emerging ego brought forth emotional and psychological problems and challenges. The sense of separation from nature grew. Nature became a tool to use against others.

Sometime before the emergence of the Hebrew god these tendencies were apparent. In many ancient, now-forgotten tribal religions, recourse was also made to the gods to turn nature against the enemy. Before this time, however, man felt a part of nature, not separated from it. It was regarded as an extension of his being, as he felt an extension of its reality. One cannot use oneself as a weapon against oneself in those terms.

In those times men spoke and confided to the spirits of the birds, trees and spiders, knowing that in the interior reality beneath, the nature of these communications was known and understood. In those times, death was not feared as it is in your terms, now, for the cycle of consciousness was understood.

Man desired in one way to step out of himself, of the framework in which he had his psychological existence, to try new challenges, to step out of a mode of consciousness into another. He wanted to study the process of his own consciousness. In one way this meant a giant separation from the inner spontaneity that had given him both peace and security. On the other hand, it offered a new creativity, in his terms.

Now, at this point the god inside became the god outside.

Man tried to form a new realm, attain a different kind of focus of awareness, His consciousness turned a corner outside of itself.

…God, therefore, became an idea projected outward, independent of the individual, divorced from nature. He became the reflection of mans emerging ego, with all of its brilliance, savagery, power and intent for mastery. The adventure was a highly creative one despite the obvious disadvantages, and represented an evolution of consciousness that enriched mans subjective experience, and indeed added to the dimensions of reality itself.

…Historically, the characteristics of God changed as mans ego changed. These characteristics of the ego, however, were supported by strong inner changes.

…The original projection of inner characteristics outward into the formation of the ego could be compared with the birth of innumerable stars an event of immeasurable consequence that originated on a subjective level and within inner reality.

The ego, having its birth from within, therefore, must always boast of its independence while maintaining the nagging certainty of its inner origin.

The ego feared for its position, frightened that it would dissolve back into the inner self from which it came. Yet in its emergence it provided the inner self with a new kind of feedback, a different view not only of itself… the inner self was able to glimpse possibilities of development of which it had not previously been aware. In your terms, by the time of Christ, the ego was sure enough of its position so that the projected picture of God could begin to change.

…All of this material now given must be considered along with the fact that beneath these developments there are the external aspects and creative characteristics of a force that is both undeniable and intimate. All That Is, in other words, represents the reality from which all of us spring. All That Is, by its nature, transcends all dimensions of activity, consciousness, or reality, while being a part of each.

Behind all faces is one face, yet this does not mean that each mans face is not his own.

…The journeys of the gods, therefore, represent the journeys of mans consciousness projected outward. All That Is, however, is within each such adventure. Its consciousness, and its reality, is within each man, and within the gods he has created.

…The gods attain of course, a psychic reality. I am not saying therefore that they are not real, but I am to some extend defining the nature of their reality. It is to some extent true to say Be careful of the gods you choose, for you will reinforce each other.

from The Meaning of Religion in Seth Speaks


SETH on the Jewish Prophets

The traditional personified god concept represented the mass psyche’s one-ego development; the ego ruling the self as God ruled man; man dominant over the planet and other species. Neurological patterning of the kind we know began with the early testament Jews (known, then as God’s people), looking forward through time to a completely one-ego focussed self. Before, neurological functioning was not as set; and in our world today some minority peoples and tribes still hold to those alternative neurological pulses. These will not appear to our measuring devices because we are literally blind to them. The Jewish prophets, however, utilised these alternative focuses of perception themselves, and were relatively unprejudiced neurologically. They were therefore able to perceive alternative visions of reality. Yet their great work, whilst focussing the energy of an entire race, and leading to Christianity, also resulted in limiting man’s potential perceptive area in important ways. The prophets were able to sense the potentials of the mass psyche, and their prophecies charted courses in time, projecting the Jewish race into the future. They provided psychic webworks, blueprints and dramas, with living people stepping into the roles already outlined, but also improvising as they went along. But as a snake throws off old skin, the psyche throws off old patterns that have become rigid, and we need a new set of psychic blueprints to further extend the species into the future. For now we no longer view reality through original eyes, but through structures of belief we have outgrown. These structures are simply meant to frame and organise experience, but we mistake the picture for the reality it represents.

from The God of Jane, Jane Roberts


SETH on the Christ Entity

Gnostic Christianity distinguished between the person of Jesus and the Christ entity as a spiritual being or aeon. This understanding is affirmed in a new way in Seth’s account of the Christ as a trans-personal and trans-physical ‘entity’ that incarnated in three distinct male individuals born at different times: John the Baptist, the historical Jesus and Paul - the thrice-male entity spoken of in the gnostic gospels.


There were three men whose lives became confused in history and merged, and whose composite history became known as the life of Christ….Each was highly gifted psychically, knew of his role, and accepted it willingly. The three men were part of one entity, gaining physical existence in one time. They were not born on the same date, however. There are reasons why the entity did not return as one person. For one thing, the full consciousness of an entity would be too strong for one physical vehicle. For another, the entity wanted a more diversified environment than could otherwise be provided.

from The Seth Material


There were three separate individuals whose history blended, and they became collectively known as Christ hence many discrepancies in your records. These were all males because at that time of your development, you would not have accepted a female counterpart…These three figures worked out a drama, highly symbolic, propelled by concentrated energy of great force.

The events as they are recorded, however, did not occur in history. The crucifixion of Christ was a psychic, but not a physical event. Ideas of almost unimaginable magnitude were played out.

Judas for example, was not a man in your terms. He was like all the other disciples a blessed created fragment personality formed by the Christ personality. He represented the self-betrayer. He dramatised a portion of each individuals personality that focuses upon physical reality in a grasping manner, and denies the inner self out of greed.

Each of the twelve represented qualities of personality that belong to one individual, and Christ as you know him represented the inner self. The twelve, therefore, plus Christ as you know him (the one figure composed of the three) represented an individual earthly personality the inner self- and twelve main characteristics connected with the egotistical self. As Christ was surrounded by the disciples, so the inner self is surrounded by these physically oriented characteristics, each drawn outward toward daily reality on the one hand, and yet orbiting the inner self.

The disciples, therefore, were given physical reality by the inner self, as all of your earthly characteristics come out of your inner nature. This was a living parable, made flesh among you a cosmic play worked out for your behalf, couched in terms you could understand.

…The three Christ personalities were born upon your planet, and indeed became flesh among you. None of these was crucified. The twelve disciples were materialisations of the energies of these three personalities their combined energies. They were then fully endowed with individuality, however, but their main task was to clearly manifest within themselves certain abilities inherent within all men.

…Christ, the historical Christ, was not crucified…He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that in order to fulfil the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was necessary.

Christ did not take part in it. There was a conspiracy in which Judas played a role, an attempt made to make a martyr out of Christ. The man chosen was drugged hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross and he was told that he was the Christ. He believed that he was. He was one of those deluded, but he also believed that he, and not the historical Christ, was to fulfil the prophecies.

Mary came because she was full of compassion for the man who believed he was her son. Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be blamed.

…The tomb was empty because the same people carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after…Christ was a great psychic. He caused the wounds to appear then upon his own body, and appeared both physically and in out-of-body states to his followers. He tried, however, to explain what had happened, and his position, but those who were not in on the conspiracy would not understand, and misread his statements.

Peter three times denied the Lord, saying that he did not know him, because he recognised that that person was not Christ.

The plea "Peter, why has thou forsaken me?" came from the man who believed he was Christ the drugged version. Judas pointed out that man. He knew of the conspiracy, and feared that the real Christ would be captured. Therefore he handed over to the authorities a man known to be a self-styled messiah to save, not destroy the life of the historical Christ.

Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meanings of the human psyche, and so the Crucifixion per se became a far greater reality than the actual physical events that occurred at the time.

Only the deluded are in danger of, or capable of, such self-sacrifice, you see, or would find it necessary. Only those still bound up in ideas of crime and punishment would be attracted to that kind of religious drama and find within it deep echoes of their own subjective feelings.

Christ knew however, clairvoyantly, that these events in one way or another would occur, and the probable dramas that could result. The man involved could not be swerved from his subjective decision. He would be sacrificed to make the old Jewish prophecies come true, and he could not be dissuaded.

In the Last Supper when Christ said, "This is my body, and this is my blood," He meant to show that the spirit was within all matter, interconnected and yet apart and that his own spirit was independent of his body, and also in his own way to hint that he should no longer be identified with his body. For he knew the dead body would not be his own.

This was all misunderstood. Christ then changed his mode of behaviour, appearing quite often in out-of-body states to his followers. Before, he had not done this to that degree. He tried to tell them, however, that he was not dead, and they chose to take him symbolically.

His physical presence was no longer necessary, and was even an embarrassment under the circumstances, He simply willed himself out of it.

from Seth Speaks


Seth on the “Second Coming”


According to Seth the Christ entity became incarnate not in one but in three personages – John the Baptist, the historical Jesus, and the apostle Paul. In Seth Speaks he also explains why exactly it is that this third personality – that of Paul – will form the nucleus of the new psychic gestalt whose incarnation is anticipated as the ‘Second Coming’ of Christ.

 The third personality…has not in your terms yet appeared, although his existence has been prophecied as the “Second Coming”. Now these prophecies were given in terms of the current culture at that time, and therefore, while the stage has been set, the distortions are deplorable, for this Christ will not come at the end of your world as the prophecies have been maintaining.

 He will not come to reward the righteous and send evildoers to eternal doom. He will, however, begin a new religious drama. A certain historical continuity will be maintained. As happened once before, however, he will not be generally known for who he is. There will be no glorious proclamations to which the whole world will bow. He will return to straighten out Christianity, which will be in a shambles at the time of his arrival, and to set up a new system of thought when the world is sorely in need of one.

 By that time, all religions will be in severe crisis. He will undermine religious organisations – not unite them. His message will be that of the individual in relation to All That Is. He will clearly state methods by which each individual can attain a state of intimate contact with his own entity, the entity being to some extent man’s mediator with All That Is.

By 2075, all of this will be already accomplished.

…The third personality of Christ will indeed be known as a great psychic, for it is he that will teach humanity to use those inner senses that alone make true spirituality possible. Slayers and victims will change roles as reincarnational memories rise to the surface of consciousness. Through the development of these abilities, the sacredness of all life will be intimately recognised and appreciated.

…He will lead man behind the symbolism upon which religion has relied for so many centuries. He will emphasise individual spiritual experience, the expansiveness of soul, and teach man to recognise the multitudinous aspects of his own reality.

 The third historical personage, already born in your terms, and a portion of the entire Christ personality, took upon himself the role of a zealot.

 This person had superior energy and power and great organising ability, but it was the errors that he made unwittingly that perpetuated some dangerous distortions.

   The man, historically, now, was Paul or Saul. It was given to him to set up a framework. But it was to be a framework of ideas, not of regulations; of men, not of groups. Here he fell down, and he will return as the third personality.

  Now Saul went to great lengths to set himself up as a separate identity. His characteristics, for example, were seemingly quite different from those of the historical Christ. He was ‘converted’ in an intense personal experience – a fact that was meant to impress upon him the personal and not organisational aspects.

  All personalities have free will and work out their own challenges. The same applied to Paul. The organisational ‘distortions’ however, were also necessary in the framework of history as events are understood. Saul’s tendencies were known, therefore, at another level. They served a purpose. It is for this reason, however, that he will emerge once again, this time to destroy those distortions.

  Now, he did not create them on his own and thrust them upon historical reality. He created them in so far as he found himself forced to admit certain facts. In that world at that time, earthly power was needed to hold Christian ideas apart from numberless other theories and religions, to maintain them in the middle of warring factions. It was his job to form a physical framework; and even then he was afraid that the framework would strangle the ideas, but he saw no other way.

…When the third personality reemerges, he will not be called the old Paul, but will carry within him the characteristics of all the three personalities.

  Paul tried to deny knowing who he was, until his experience with conversion. Allegorically, he represented a warring faction of the self that fights against his own knowledge and is oriented in a highly physical manner. It seemed he went from one extreme to another, being against Christ and then for him. But the inner vehemence was always present, the inner fire, and the recognition that he tried for so long to hide.

 His was the portion that was to deal with physical reality, and so these qualities were strong in him. To some extent they overruled him. When the historical ‘Christ’ died, Paul was to implement the spiritual ideas in physical terms, to carry on. In doing so, however, he grew the seeds of an organisation that would smother the ideas.

 John and the historical Christ each performed their roles and were satisfied that they had done so. Paul alone was left at the end unsatisfied, and so it is about his personality that that the future Christ will form.

 Paul also represented the militant nature of man, that had to be taken into consideration in line with man’s development at the time. That militant quality of man will completely change its nature, and be dispensed with as you know it, when the next Christ personality emerges. It is therefore appropriate that Paul be present.

 In the next century [the 1st post-millennium century], the inner nature of man, with these developments, will free itself of many constraints that have bound it. A new era will indeed begin – not, now a heaven on earth, but a far more sane and just world, in which man is far more aware of his relationship with his planet and of his freedom within time.

…I would like to make certain points clear. The ‘new religion’ following the Second Coming will not be Christian in your terms, although the third personality of Christ will initiate it.

 This personality will refer to the historical Christ, will recognise his relationship with that personality; but within him the three personality groupings will form a new psychic entity, a different psychological gestalt. As this metamorphosis takes place, it will initiate a metamorphosis on a human level also, as man’s inner abilities are accepted and developed.

 The result will be a different kind of existence. Many of your problems result from spiritual ignorance. No man will look down upon an individual from another race when he recognises that his own existence includes such membership also.

 No sex will be considered better than the other, or any role in society, when each individual is aware of his or her own [reincarnational] experiences at many levels of society and in many roles. An open-ended consciousness will feel its connection with all other living beings. The continuity of consciousness will become apparent. As a result of all this the social and governmental structures will change, for they are all based on your current beliefs.

 Human personality will reap benefits that would now seem unbelievable. An open-ended consciousness will imply far greater freedom. From birth, children will be taught that basic identity is not dependent on the body, and that time as you know it is an illusion. The child will be aware of many of its past existences, and will be able to identify with the old man or woman that in your terms it will become.

 Many of the lessons ‘that come with age’ will then be available to the young, but the old will not lose the spiritual elasticity of their youth. This itself is important. But for some time, future incarnations will still be hidden for practical reasons.

 As these changes come about, new areas will be activated in the brain to physically take care of them. Physically then, brain mappings will be possible in which past-life memories are evoked. All of these alterations are spiritual changes in which the meaning of religion will escape organisational bounds, become a living part of individual existence, and where psychic frameworks rather than physical ones form the foundation for civilisation.

 Man’s experience will be so extended that to you the species will seem to have changed into another. This does not mean there will not be problems. It does mean that man will have far greater resources at his command. It also presupposes a richer and far more diverse social framework. Men and women will find themselves relating to their brethren, not only as the people that they are, but as the people that they were.

 Family relationships will show perhaps the greatest changes. There will be room for emotional interactions within the family that are now impossible.

 I am including this information…on religion because it is so important that you realise that spiritual ignorance is at the basis of so many of your problems, and that indeed your only limitations are spiritual ones.

 The metamorphosis mentioned on the part of the third personality, will have such strength and power that it will call out from mankind those same qualities from within itself. The qualities have always been present. They will finally break through the veils of physical perception, extending that perception in new ways. 

…There will be many who will be afraid to accept the nature of their own reality, or to be shown the dimensions of true identity.

…Events are not predestined. The framework for this emergence has already been set, however, within your system of probabilities.


God - Male or Female?

…God can only be experienced, and you experience him whether or not you realise it, through your existence. He is not male or female however, and I use the terms only for conveniences sake. In the most inescapable truth, he is not human in your terms at all, nor in your terms, is he a personality. Your ideas of personality are far too limited to contain the multitudinous facets of his multidimensional existence.

On the other hand, he is human, in that he is a portion of each individual; and within the vastness of his experience he holds an idea-shape of himself as human, to which you can relate. He literally was made flesh to dwell among you, for he forms your flesh in that he is responsible for the energy that gives vitality to and validity to your private multidimensional self, which in turn forms your image in accordance with your ideas.

This private multidimensional self…has then an eternal validity. It is upheld, supported, maintained by the energy, the inconceivable vitality, of All That Is. It cannot be destroyed then, this inner self of yours, nor can it be diminished. It shares in those abilities that are inherent in All That Is. It must therefore, create, as it is created, for this is the great giving that is behind all dimensions of existence, the spilling-over from the fountain of All That Is.

from Seth Speaks 




Seth’s account of the crucifixion is in accord with that contained in the Nag Hammadi gospel entitled the Second Treatise of the Great Seth:

And the plan which they devised about me to release their Error and their senselessness - I did not succumb to them as they had planned. But I was not afflicted at all. Those who were there punished me. And I did not die in reality but in appearance, lest I be put to shame by them because these are my kinsfolk. I removed the shame from me and I did not become fainthearted in the face of what happened to me at their hands. I was about to succumb to fear, and I suffered according to their sight and thought, in order that they may never find any word to speak about them. For my death, which they think happened, happened to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death. For their Ennoias did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me. It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon Whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the archons and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.

And I subjected all their powers. For as I came downward, no one saw me. For I was altering my shapes, changing from form to form. And therefore, when I was at their gates, I assumed their likeness. For I passed them by quietly, and I was viewing the places, and I was not afraid nor ashamed, for I was undefiled. And I was speaking with them, mingling with them through those who are mine, and trampling on those who are harsh to them with zeal, and quenching the flame. And I was doing all these things because of my desire to accomplish what I desired by the will of the Father above.


Seth views on the psychological motive for attachment to ‘Christian’ concepts of self-sacrifice and martyrdom reflect a central message in The Testament of Truth.

The foolish - thinking in their heart that if they confess, "We are Christians," in word only (but) not with power, while giving themselves over to ignorance, to a human death, not knowing where they are going nor who Christ is, thinking that they will live, when they are (really) in error - hasten towards the principalities and authorities. They fall into their clutches because of the ignorance that is in them. For (if) only words which bear testimony were effecting salvation, the whole world would endure this thing and would be saved. But it is in this way that they drew error to themselves….they do not know that they will destroy themselves. If the Father were to desire a human sacrifice, he would become vainglorious.

For the Son of Man clothed himself with their first-fruits; he went down to Hades and performed many mighty works. He raised the dead therein; and the world-rulers of darkness became envious of him, for they did not find sin in him. But he also destroyed their works from among men, so that the lame, the blind, the paralytic, the dumb, (and) the demon-possessed were granted healing. And he walked upon the waters of the sea.

How many they are ! They are blind guides, like the disciples….These are empty martyrs, since they bear witness only to themselves. And yet they are sick, and they are not able to raise themselves.

But when they are "perfected" with a (martyr's) death, this is the thought that they have within them: "If we deliver ourselves over to death for the sake of the Name we will be saved." These matters are not settled in this way. But through the agency of the wandering stars they say they have "completed" their futile "course…They do not have the word which gives life.


From The Third Stele of Seth

We rejoice! We rejoice! We rejoice!

We have seen! We have seen! We have seen the really pre-existent one, that he really exists, that he is the first eternal one.

Oh Unconceived, from thee are the eternal ones and the aeons, the all-perfect ones who are established, and the perfect individuals.

We bless thee, non-being, existence which is before existences, first being which is before beings, Father of divinity and life, creator of mind, giver of good, giver of blessedness!

We all bless thee, knower, in a glorifying blessing, (thou) …who knows thee, through thee alone. For there is no one who is active before thee. Thou art an only and living spirit. And thou knowest one, for this one who belongs to thee is on every side. We are not able to express him. For thy light shines upon us.

Thou art one, thou art a single living spirit. How shall we give thee a name? We do not have it, For thou art the existence of them all. Thou art the life of them all. Thou art the consciousness of them all. For thou art he in whom they all rejoice.

Thou hast commanded all these to be saved through thy word..thou who art before thyself - and after thee no one entered into activity.

As what shall we bless thee? We are not empowered. But we give thanks, as being humble toward thee. For thou hast commanded us, as he who is elect, to glorify thee to the extent we are able. We bless thee because we were saved. Always we glorify thee. For this reason we shall glorify thee, that we may be saved to eternal salvation. We have blessed thee, for we are empowered. We have been saved, for thou hast willed always, that we all do this.

We all did this….He who will remember us and give glory always will become perfect among those who are perfect and impassable beyond all things. For they all bless us individually and together. And afterwards they shall be silent. And just as they were ordained, they ascend. After the silence, they descend from the third. They bless the second; after these the first. The way of ascent is the way of descent.

Know therefore, as those who live, that you have attained. And you taught yourselves the infinite things. Marvel at the truth which is within them, and at the revelation.

From the Second Treatise of the Great Seth

I was among those who are united in the friendship of friends forever, who neither know hostility at all, nor evil, but who are united by my knowing in word and peace which exists in perfection with everyone and in them all. And those who assumed the form of my type will assume the form of my word. Indeed, these will come forth in light forever, and in friendship with each other in the spirit, since they have known in every respect and indivisibly that what is, is One.


From The Gospel of Truth

His name is Fore-beginning, Fore-father and Abyss. No thing can comprehend Him. Through immeasurable eternities he remained in profound repose…And once the Abyss took thought to project out of Himself the beginnings of all things, he sank into this project like a seed into the womb of the Silence that was with Him, and She conceived and brought forth consciousness which is like and equal to the begetter.